So cool

Whether or not it works will, of course, be up to the scientists on the project. We’ll have to take their word for it. If, on the other hand, it does cause a black hole and gobble up Earth and local space, no one will be alive to report it, so it’s really a non-issue. It will be the one time that all of humanity will be equal.

I really dont think it should be allowed by any government for things such as this to be invented, but again thats only my opinon

Remember the first A-bomb detonation? They thought that would destroy the whole earth.

We’re all going to die….

The same crazies made the same outlandish claims when the RHIC collider started up on Long Island in 1999. But instead of getting a black hole or a strangelet, we got George W. Bush. I’m not sure that was a good deal.

I don’t know … but I feel like I’m being pulled in several different directions lately!

The Earth is constantly being bombarded by high energy particles that exceed the enery of the Collinder by millions of times. Face it, there is NO chance of a black hole gobbling up the Earth. It would be absolutely astounding if we could even amass the amount of energy to do that.

The media is hyping this up because stories like this sell. If it involves danger to us, it sells like crazy. News corporations like ABC know this and are exploiting it. You are NOT going to die. End of story.

This reminds me of a line from Jurassic Park when Dr. Malcolm said
Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn’t stop to think if they should.

One more thing. This is not like the Nuclear Bomb. The bomb WAS DESIGNED to KILL. This is designed for research. Not only that, but the scientific community is 100% certain that this will not kill us all. Thats why they are scientists, they have more knowledge about the intricaies of how these things work.

Great no more worries about bills and loans if it happens..

BUT theese collisons happens all the time around you so no need to worry.

lol imagine putting the accelerator next to big bang and measure the size of theese two..
lhc size is about 0,00billionsbillionsbillionsbillionsbillionsbillions0001 smaller

Im too young to die!!!!!!!!

Maybe this has happened before and everyone died??? Don’t do it again!!!

Hey USA!
Switzerland is threatning to destroy the world and you haven’t sent one marine…

It could take one to four years before the beams collide…Is it the countdown to the end???

The only people who would be frightened by this are people who are scared of science.

You know, the Mayan calendar (among others) ENDS in 2012. So maybe you are correct, Tasha.

I think this is a giant step forward for all of those that love science.

I did get a headache today….??

I’ve read the reports on the safety of the device and unfortunately, they are not 100% certain it is safe. There is a very very small percentage that certain things could happen. When they used insurance liability numbers times the 6 billion people on the planet, it came out to only about 123 people affected so they accepted the risks. I think it is really stupid to use insurance math for science that could potentially affect everyone on the planet.

I have a really bad headache today… Anyone else?

Hi Barbara, I wrote that before I noticed your post…

If the fact that we can DIRECTLY OBSERVE high-energy collisions from cosmic rays that involve higher energies than will be achieved by the LHC doesn’t persuade you, then you are of a fundamentally unscientific mindset. Empiricism is the basis of science. Empiricism means “believing your eyes.” If you can already see the occasional high-energy cosmic ray event that exceeds LHC energies, and the world doesn’t end, then that should be that. Theory does not trump observation in science; theory is modified based upon observation.

I realize that this begs the question as to why one has to build the LHC if such collisions occur in nature. The problem is that they don’t occur at a high rate in a convenient location. In order to study the results of these collisions, you need to build a huge array of particle trackers and other sensors around the collision point. Since you have to observe enough collisions to get good statistical data — and since you’d like to be able to control the conditions of the experiment — you need to build the LHC. However, that doesn’t change the fact that one occasionally sees higher-energy collisions in nature.

Also, the whole thing about scientists “worrying that the first atomic bomb might end the world” is a distortion. Yes, the atom bomb scientists considered the possibility that the blast could ignite the atmosphere, but they did the calculations and concluded that there was no real chance of that happening. Just because some extreme scenario is studied doesn’t mean it was “expected to happen” — in science you consider a lot of crazy ideas and then rule them out.

Finally, for all the armchair scientists out there who are worried about microscopic black holes… microscopic black holes are not supposed to be stable. They “evaporate” by Hawking radiation, and the smaller they are, the faster they lose mass. Even if a quantum black hole was created in a high-energy collision, it would not be able to consume mass faster than it lost it through Hawking radiation. There isn’t even any theoretical basis to be concerned!

yeah, they are scientists… their theories are never wrong.. Scientists dont make mistakes like us regular hick folk…. they cant destroy the earth…cause they have “thoeries” and we all know that those are just as good as “facts”……..

The most frightening thing here is the vast amount of ignorance being displayed. It makes me ashamed that the backwards hicks that post here are actually members of the same race as I am. It is these religious freaks and doomsayers that have a potential to elect an evil pair of charlatans to the white house – mcsame/palin.

GO super collider! Maybe we’ll learn something other than what the Bronze Age taught.

D-LONG: The point here is that the danger is only THEORETICAL whereas the safety is EMPIRICAL. Scientific theories are wrong all the time, which is why you should believe your eyes and not some crackpot theory.

Well..if destroying the world we live in has any merit it sure doesn’t happen in the selection of atoms..these physicists mostly get to a POINT::about having the RIGHT-stuff..useing BUBBLES..or lasers..or cameras or even just some smoke—colliding attoms and decaying particles has been going on for quite a while..this latest—seems to suggest a VERY-LARGE-EXPERIMENT…but what about the decaying particles compared to some new discovery…??…its really all the same most likely–you just need to figure that electrons will develop most time stamps because your apt to be stuck there…destroying the surrounding uni-verse..by accellerating beams along a magnetic collider—all the while looking for a decaying particle—seems to suggest the opposite.

If a particle collides with another particle in the Hadron Collider and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?

I’m persuaded… the idea that LHC could cause such harm are so statistically as to be nonexistent.

Do the math people… the energies are nowhere near strong enough to cause problems. It’s like a bunch of ancient primitives screaming that we need a human sacrifice for fear that the sun won’t rise tomorrow…

If I put lipstick on a black hole, would it work or would the lipstick get pulled inside? If the lipstick went inside, would it be crushed near the event horizon or would it make it out the other side in a different place and possibly time? And, you I owe a government taxes on both ends of the space; time continuum?

LIPSTICK—or ROUGE—sticking inside of a mind seems to suggest electrons…quamtum mechanics must be really intricate..or even just alot of fun…but decaying particles for lifes problems…as compared to building some MORE-fluid-MODEL…like electrons..??..its more like LESS-of a FAUCET—amd MORE-LIKE MORE-a difference…//..its alot more than life can go for.

Proof positive that more smoke and bigger mirrors do not better magic make!

i had a fight with my gf today. its all your fault LHC lol….these stupid scientist don’t believe in God…and they are fool enough to believe in the existance of a “God Particle”. the most smartest dummies out there…lol

Also; If the universe is full of decaying particulate matter, why isn’t it somewhat more aromatic then it is? For that matter, why do we stop prison riots?

If I am not mistaken, when high speed
aircrafts are landing, anti-matter is
produced from reversing the engines.however this may not be the same scenario.

Listen, I’m not sure how any of this works, but I hope this is one experiment proven right. If you are really uncomfortable with this, start a petition to put it on hold. Myabe we don’t need to see how the universe was made anyways.

Good grief, people are really going to listen to a lawyer about some science experiment ending the world?! It’s not as if Lawyers haven’t already made the place intolerable anyway.

The end times! The Mayan End Date is the winter solstice, December 21, 2012. Can’t wait, it will be cool!

>> If you are really uncomfortable with
>> this, start a petition to put it on hold
>
Why do the rest of us need to be limited by your ignorance??

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 2nd Peter 3:10

This takes place when Christ returns not by a black hole started by a collider. But I suppose there is always the possibility it could cause some catastrophic event but I doubt it.

God will deal with us all.

I think that something that could have any slight chance of causing harm to Earth should not be made, used, and experimented with. I don’t care how sure scientists are. They say that the Earth has gone through events such as these in the past but unless they know exactly what caused our Universe to be the way it is, hold off on the experiments. We can’t even get past the moon on any sort of human mission, which is another debate, for another day.

This is Sweet. i am totally using this for my current event for my english class. I probably won’t be the only one who used this, because it is so totally awesome. but for the people in my English class who read this, you should totally use this because it is totally awesome.
♥Taylor M.

Geeze – just take a little miniscule bit of scientific knowledge (if the words of all the top scientists in the field are not enough) – and you’d know that even the entire Earth wouldn’t create a black hole. Those things are incredibly massive, to create one that actually functions would take many times more mass than our planet – heck, it takes more mass than our sun has!

Just read a little – when a star, an entire star, such as our own, compresses, it won’t even form a stable black hole due to a lack of mass. Where do you think that mass would come from for this boogeyman, end of the world black hole? It’s not here, so it’s simply not possible to form one.

All that, of course, aside from all the science saying that the collider does nothing but what happens naturally here on Earth all the time, in a place where we can watch it, that any “black hole” formed would be the size of a proton and thus irrelevant and not stable, and Hawking and every other real scientist not worried at all about this.

The begining of the End???
Is it a major break through after E=MC2(squared)??

As a student of science i am well aware that we see the vivid pros but the cons come later…

let set back and see.

yea

Hey if this gets in the blog– am I famous? I am for it. I remember the fear caused by the China Syndrom movie. Move on. Vote McCain-Palin. Change that will have a chance to work.

At least we won’t have to put up with four more years of Republican bs.

First the development of nuclear power, which led to mankind using it against one another through nuclear weapons, and now this. It will only be a matter of time when mankind again will rise, or should I say, FALL, to the occasion and use the new findings against one another. GO MANKIND!!!!

Can you imagine Andy, what would have happened if Al Gore had been elected President in 2000– the debris from 911 would probably be still in NY– still on fire and the flag of islamic terrorism still smoking. Al would be there though, writing another book about another phantasm– global warming.

And, Andy, I guess the truth hurts. Science has ruled this planet for a long time and we all live longer than we would if Al Gore had been president.

Sarah Palin, George Bush or any empty-headed evangelical could have told these scientist the universe is only 6,000 years old. Duh!!! Isn’t it a good thing that the U.S. is spending billions on wars and faith base abstinence only programs rather than real research and development programs?

Gee– this is fun. And on a network that bashes Sarah Palin everyday. I’ve bee on TV three times now. Andy is probably blogging somewhere else. I’m glad this is a first for me. It is something that WTH never really had, obviously.

I there was a Futurama episode about this! The lawyer was right, a black hole that ate the earth, moon, planets and sun in a few seconds. The cartoon characters whirled around like those in the tornado scene in the Wizard of Oz. I hesitate to mention this because now Wagner’s web site will probability add the cartoon to his list of evidence…. Idiot.

I’m so glad that O’Bamas preacher has’t weighed in. It would only be another– God xxxx America, as we all know we secretly funded it. Haha

What so important using so much money knowing something liked Universe Creation ???? Do they know how to “Cure Cancer”? which killed millions of people each year. Stupid and very waste money. Usually this is the beginning of creating Mass Killing Weapon to terminate human being in second. Shame on you all.

Is it US election blog??? or something about the Big Bang Machine?
Very funny!!!!

Like it or not we live in a nuclear world. Nuclear science will go on. I am for it. Maybe the West can use this machine on our real enemies. I am not an idiot, just having fun being on a network that hates consevatism.

So Fahim, are you out there blogging somewhere else or listening? I truly believe in nuclear power. The frustrations of high electric bills is just boiling over. This project could be a real answer;

This creation seems like the Monty Python “Birth” sketch in the Meaning of Life – the “machine that goes ping”.

It looks hi-tech… but does anyone know what it does, really?

I suppose discovery for for discovery’s sake is always a gamble – I do hope it pays off somehow.

Nuclear science already extends life through radiation therapy and chemo with cancer. I ask everyone to think outside the box– like McCain with Palin– real change! Let the chips fall where they may.

Did everyone just go away

This is why blogging will always remain, generally, a pooling of ignorance!!

I think we should be more carefull !!!!!!!If something went wrong It would have been bad!!!!

Children say the funniest things.

If the LHC works the way the nay sayers predict who will be here to worry about it? If it works the way CERN perdicts then we learn more about how our universe is constructed, possibly creating new ways to extract energy.

Ok so call me a religious freak if you choose. Who are we to play God? Must everything have an explanation. Shouldn’t some things be left up to faith? I don’t know what it will do but I don’t like it. Shouldn’t more time be spent on saving our planet and tackling all the many real problems we are facing? If the money and time that was used for this hair-brained idea was spent to actually help us do something good instead of maybe kill us wouldn’t that make more sense.

The smarter man gets the more stupid he becomes!

“What so important using so much money knowing something liked Universe Creation ???? Do they know how to “Cure Cancer”? which killed millions of people each year. Stupid and very waste money. “

Waste of money…
You can build one LHC for EVERY MONTH Iraq war budget, and unlike the pointless war in Iraq, this research may be become very fruitful (think of the spin off technologies alone).

In this day and age, when a fundamentalist has a good chance of becoming the vice president of the USA, all I can say is Go europe!

Anything that can recreate the effects of the big bang is irresponsible to use. Yes the universe has done and seen all of this before, but not without tearing apart planets and suns and entire galaxies. Even the smallest of black holes has more energy than anything we have ever seen before, so by all means let recreate this event here on Earth.

Thats pretty cool, maybe it will wipe the slate clean and we can start all over again.

I find it interesting to read all the Christians telling us how the fate of the Universe in in the hands of their god, but, as a Pagan, I don’t really put much stock in their god.

Maybe they’ve already created a black-hole and we’ve been sucked into an alternate universe, but just haven’t realized it yet…

After all, if we were transported at the speed of light, it may take a while for our conscious minds to catch up…

ben
Just like you could be killed by an accident on any given day so could this planet but the likelyhood of the planet suffering a fatal accident is much less. This is all nonsense. There is a very good story called “Blasphemy” that is based on this scenario. You might enjoy it and the moral it relates. As for the world ending, I don’t think so. I really would not worry about it.

I can take a dip in one river and come up in another. I can travel on the sun’s rays, but I’m still blown away by this wireless internet access! Science helps us understand how God does what he does, that’s all.

oh and if you read this history teacher…I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to call you a spas. What I ment was that you didn’t look into this subject enought to understand what real danger there is…none.

oh and history teacher…I’m sorry if you read that I called you a spas. What I ment is that you haven’t looked into this subject and you explained to the class that we could die at any second… please next time look into this subject.

i honestly think wat there doing is stupid and uncalled for! whats the point of all of this? science is not something to be played with! and where all going to die because of sum dum scientist are bored and want to do sum stupid thingz like this! wat iz this world coming to? i dont understand

rijalda

Wow…just wow. The inability of people to actually look into a subject before they become experts on it astounds me.

Maybe we are blowing away someone else
in another Universe …
No coexistence on our side ?

Just turn out the lights and close the door when you’re done. I’m not coming back to tell you what went wrong.

So I just had a little daydream: wouldn’t it be great to have Obama/Biden and McCain/Palin visit the collider when the first collision occurs, and whichever team doesn’t get sucked into the black hole(s) created gets to be our POTUS and V-POTUS? (Or maybe it should be the other way around… I’m feeling a little light-headed…)

To the person who said that science is not at plaything, I have to disagree.

An experiment is simply a more directed form of play. When we are children we play with items to see what they are and how they work. And if you ever go to the Think Geek online store; most of the toys there a science plaything (levitating top, desk pendulum, floating globe, etc.)

Science is the RESULT of the mind at play. So saying that science in not a human’s plaything is utter rubbish. Just because you perceive danger does not mean that world must stop so that you don’t lose your security blanket.

In short – Science is play, so grow up and stop crying.

I know this does sound intimidating to some, but if you think about it, the nuclear bomb was an experiment, only difference was nobody really knew about it. Honestly, good things could come from this. One person was talking about how this could turn into a new energy source (If anyone has every heard of “Dark Energy”)

I’m a not too educated Canadian, and I’m not sure if this LHC is dangerous or not. If it is, I say we point it at the presidential palace in Venezuela. Now that good energy policy.

“It will be the one time that all of humanity will be equal.”

This propensity for some to worry about making everyone equal even extends to our demise in a black hole? Talk about liberal guilt tripping extended too far!

Personally, I am so glad to be a Republican and to be ok with being different than other people (hence… not “equal”). Should we all die in a collider-induced accident, my being a cut-above those whose inane focus on equality will continue despite the assertion above… It is so natural for people to differ – If the liberals had their way, we’d all look exactly alike, talk alike, be alike. Get a life guys and focus on something constructive! LOL

If only you would have said, ‘God told you to do it’,the fanatical christians would back off. This could be a real breakthrough for science and understanding the universe.As all the pharmaceutical companies say, there is no money made in curing disease, this experiment can, at least have an impact on future development on technologies.

People fear what they do not understand.At least you had the guts to read books outside of mainstream science and theology to tackle questions about the Why’s and How’s of the universe.I can’t wait to find out more.

what about the cost to make it? couldn’t the money have been invested in something better that could benefit society? like solar power homes or cars

Religious beliefs should not get in the way of the pursuit of knowledge. Non-religious people leave the religious alone, it’s time for you all to return the favor. You are no smarter than we are.

Just for fun, to play devil’s advocate (cause I doubt the LHC will end our planet). Yes, cosmic rays have much greater energy that the LHC– but they only come in ONE at a time into a given locale. The LHC is going to slam BILLIONS of particles together, at very high energy, in a very small locale. Are the smarty-pants so sure that all those quantum black holes won’t eat each other up and get big enough that they DON’T evaporate via Hawking radiation (which by the way has never been observed, only theorized) Just how much energy density has to be created before a micro-black hole CAN eat matter faster than it evaporate?
Just asking.